Episode 8: 1 Corinthians 14:34-35, Interpolations and Allison Hates Beer!

Well hello, welcome to our podcast! And blog!

In this episode, we talk about the finer points of textual criticism, church fathers, and the various interpretive issues surrounding 1 Corinthians 14:34-35. We argue that the context and textual problems strongly suggest that these two verses are an interpolation.

Also, because Nick *makes* Allison drink a beer she doesn't like (at all!), Allison threatens Nick with a furious vengeance. You have the power to determine whether or not Nick suffers. Listen and find out how you must do it.

For every 5, Nick eats 1. If this does not make sense, you will need to listen and find out!

Recommended resources this week include Payne's work and Craig S. Keener's chapter in Discovering Biblical Equality. For an excellent short sermon article, see Brandon Waite.

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Episode 7: Christian Identity and Stories of Sexism

This episode is a bit different.

We get a bit personal.

Well, we also tell jokes and enjoy our time together as always!

This time, Allison and Nick tell us about their egalitarian wedding, including some interesting details that often get left aside. Nick gives us a glimpse into the theology of John Wesley and Allison talks about Paul and Adam for book corner.

Then it is off to the races. Allison gives us a lot of insight into her experiences in seminary as a woman, and offers a lot of practical advice for women struggling in ministry or an academic environment.

Some helpful material from Priscilla Papers is Adam Omelianchuk's article, on "The Logic of Equality." Also worthy of your time is Jeanne William's article on "Christlike Responses to a Hierarchical World: Lessons from Bold Women."

In Christ,

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Episode 6: 1 Corinthians 11:2-16, Beanboozled, Sexuality and "Headship"

Well, this is the first episode of the New Year.

Not much else to say about that, especially given what has happened in the news.

Downer.

Oh well. Anyway.

In this episode, we tackle Paul's most difficult passage, a passage that has kept a lot of Pauline exegetes scratching their heads. Allison coerced Nick into trying a jelly bean or three, and it did not end well. At all. For either of them.

Recommended resources include Philip Payne's article on 1 Corinthians 11:2-16, Alan Padgett's article on the same passage, Heather Gorman's article on 'origin stories,' and Gordon Fee's commentary. It goes without saying that Payne's book is stellar and you should pick that one up.

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There. I'm good with this.

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Episode 5: 1 Corinthians 7, Sacred Liquor, Marriage, Authority and Sexual Ethics

Well Happy New Year!

In this episode, Nick and Allison discuss Paul's most neglected treatise on marriage. We discuss sexual ethics, divorce, authority in marriage, and Allison tries a beer. Spoiler: she does not like it. At all. Don't worry, Nick will finally find a beer for her!

[No he won't]

Recommended resources include Ronald W. Pierce's article in Priscilla Papers. You can find it here. It is the best treatment of the text thus far. For academic articles on Priscilla Papers and their archives, see here. Christians for Biblical Equality and the Junia Project are great resources!

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Blessings, and Happy New Years!

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Episode 4: Ephesians 5:18-33, Mutual Submission, and the Mystery of Marriage

This one was fun!

Allison and I talked about Ephesians 5:18-33 and how we interpret this passage! Rather than enforcing a hierarchy within marriage, we conclude that marriage is not about men or women having final authority in the relationship, but rather that Paul believed in mutual submission.

Allison walks us through vv.18-24 and the grammar and syntax therein, and Nick concludes the section on vv.25-33 which focuses on husbands. Examining the context is always important and the nature of "imitation of God and Christ" in 5:1-2 forms a foundation on which mutual submission is built.

Subscribe! Share! Follow us in iTunes and Twitter (Nick and Allison). For some excellent work, see Christians for Biblical Equality and the Junia Project as well!

For academic resources, see Philip B. Payne and Cynthia Long Westfall's book, Paul and Gender: Reclaiming the Apostle's Vision for Men and Women in Christ.

If you want to help fund Allison's PhD program in Systematic Theology, please consider giving at her Go Fund Me.

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Episode 3: 1 Timothy 3, Women Leaders and a Response to John MacArthur

Well, here it is! I must say Allison and I are getting pretty good at this!

In this episode, we tackle 1 Tim. 3:1-13 and show that it cannot be used in isolation, nor can it be used to exclude women from the office of 'elder' and 'deacon/minister.' We also respond to two main comments by Pastor John MacArthur, and refute his arguments for a male leadership interpretation of this passage. Since MacArthur agrees with us about women deacons (although we do not know how this works out in practice in his church), we did not respond to his comments on women deacons.

Rather than being an exclusion of women from either office, 1 Tim. 3:1-13 affirms women's desire to "aspire for these offices in conjunction with God's gifts and God's call in their lives.

For resources on this topic, particularly the issue of women deacons in Rom. 16:1-2, 1 Tim. 3:11 and church history, see the work of Jamin Hübner's A Case for Female Deacons (Eugene: Wipf & Stock, 2015).

For a modern and compact commentary that is concerned with the dominant masculine translations of 1 Tim. 3:1-13, see Aida Spencer's 1 Timothy (Eugene: Cascade, 2013).

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Episode 2: An Egalitarian Reading of 1 Timothy 2:11-15

Well, this is the big one.

In most debates in evangelicalism, this is the proof text where most of the fighting begins.

For further evidence in support of Nick's argument about the conjunction οὐδέ, see Philip B. Payne's article or just buy his book where he spends over 100 pages on 1 Timothy 2. It is worth your time. For a review, see J.W. Wartick (a former complementarian) and Paul D. Adams (who wrote a 34 page review!)--both of whom Nick counts as friends and fellow theology nerds.

This text is indeed complex, but God has given us his word to interpret. Because of this, we have concluded that Paul does not restrict women because of this text. Rather, they are prohibited from domineering or "assuming authority" over another person, and this means no one ought to do these things to another person in the body of Christ.

We hope you enjoy.

For further resources on 1 Tim. 2:12, see Jamin Hübner and Jamin Hübner, and pick up a copy of Cynthia Westfall's stellar work, and Payne's work as well.

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Episode 1: Introducing Gender Theology

Well, here we are.

In our inaugural episode, we talk about some of our journey into becoming egalitarians, as well as introducing "book corner" and Allison's research interest: theological interpretation of scripture! So we talk about hermeneutics, Paul and the Gift by John Barclay, our individual stories, and how some assumptions may play into one's exegesis of the Bible.

How's that for a hook?

This is the first time we've done a podcast together. If we are honest, we aren't the best at this. Nick toiled away for a while trying to fix some of the audio issues, and it sounds okay as of now. But, we have now figured out what to improve upon for next time.

We are totally beginners at this. Not at theology or anything like that, but at recording something together! Thanks for listening! Please share if you enjoy, or if you hate this and want to give us traffic, post it on your super conservative blog and give us what for.

Please don't ... but if you must ... that's fine.

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