52: Life Update & Egalitarian Parenting

Hi everyone! We’re back!

48: Early Christians, Aspiring Young Scholars, and Twitter with Dr. Nijay K. Gupta

We are back, and we have on our new friend and fellow theology geek Dr. Nijay K. Gupta. Nijay is Professor of New Testament at Northern Seminary and is currently writing a book on the subject of women in the New Testament world. He has also penned numerous books and journal articles on Pauline theology. He joins us to talk about his forthcoming book on women in Scripture, his journey into egalitarian theology, his work on Junia, and advice for future scholars and theologians. It is a wonderful conversation and we hope you love, it and share it around! You can follow Nijay on twitter here, you can check out his blog here, and you can contact him via his seminary page here.

If you like what we are doing, consider supporting our ministry via patreon!

Nick & Allison & Nugs

44: True Unity and the Peace of Christ in Col 3:1-17

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43: Egalitarian Co-Pastoring with Ines Velásquez-McBryde and Bobby Harrison

Hi everyone!

In this episode we talk with Pastora Ines Velásquez-McBryde and Pastor Bobby Harrison, co-pastors of The Church We Hope For about co-pastoring, egalitarianism, and ministry during COVID. You can follow both Ines and Bobby on twitter!

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41: A Biblical Vision of Evil and Suffering in Genesis with Ingrid Faro

In this episode, Allison and Nick talk with their friend Dr. Ingrid Faro. Dr. Faro is an Old Testament scholar and theologian who has done extensive work on the problem of evil in Genesis. She has authored:

• “The Question of Evil and Animal Death Before the Fall,” Trinity Journal 36/2 (2015).

• Entries: “Amen,” “Tree of Life,” “Semantics,” and “Strength” in Lexham Theological Workbook. Douglas Magnum, ed. 2014.

• Ingrid has a major monograph coming out from Lexham press about the subject of God and evil and Genesis! Keep your eyes peeled! We will share it on social media when we get a pre-order link!

She has taught Old Testament studies and Hebrew at Northern Seminary, Trinity Evangelical Divinity School, North Park Theological Seminary, and The Scandinavian School of Theology. You can also find her on Linkedin.

However, there is so much more to what Ingrid has done for the church: her story of faith is shattering and powerful, as God has moved her through a time of deep darkness. May it bless you!

If you like what we are doing, consider supporting us on patreon!

Nick & Allison

33: Warrior, Mother, Creator: Biblical Metaphors for God in Scripture with Ron Pierce

Hi Split Frame Fam!

We are delighted to have Dr. Ron Pierce (Ph.D, Fuller Theological Seminary) as our guest today to talk about biblical metaphors for God. Dr. Pierce is Professor of Old Testament at Biola University and has written and edited numerous books and articles on the topic of women in ministry and the evangelical gender debate. Ron is also a personal friend of ours and we are just over the moon that we could have him on our podcast!

In addition to being the editor of the upcoming 3rd edition of Discovering Biblical Equality (see the second edition here), Dr. Pierce has written extensively for Christians for Biblical Equality (his author page is here). Of special note is his excellent article on Deborah in Judges 4, Women Prophets and the Feminine Voice of God, and his game-changing work on 1 Corinthians 7 and marriage - I (Nick) cite it in my book The Perfection of Our Faithful Wills: it is that good! Dr. Pierce has also written a commentary on the Book of Daniel and an accessible work on marriage and ministry partnership.

Dr. Pierce also teaches an exceptional class on Theology of Gender at Biola, and the playlist on YouTube can be found here. It was first in Dr. Pierce’s class that both of us became convinced of the biblical veracity of egalitarianism and changed our minds based on what Scripture teaches.

If you like what we re doing, please consider supporting us on Patreon! Thank you, especially those who write to us whether egalitarian or complementarian, and our current patrons. You are a great blessing to us! No gift is too small.

Nick & Allison & Nolan Quient

32: The History & Future of Egalitarianism with Mimi Haddad

In this episode, Nick and Allison talk with Dr. Mimi Haddad, president of Christians for Biblical Equality (CBE). Dr. Haddad is a personal friend of ours and we are so excited to welcome her onto our small podcast! We talk about the history of egalitarianism and the future of egalitarianism: where we’ve come from, and where we are going.

Dr. Haddad has written extensively on how Humanity Flourishes when We Invest in Girl's Education, Women Church Planters, Ending Abuse, and especially how Egalitarianism is not a new path to liberalism. Join us in our conversation with Mimi! We hope you love it! You can follow Mimi on Twitter here.

If you like what we are doing, consider participating with us on creating the greatest egalitarian podcast on earth by becoming a monthly supporter on Patreon! Please share, rate (5 stars, please), and tell your friends about this podcast. Thank you for listening and supporting us!

31: Women and Old Testament Law with Mary Conway

In this episode, Nick and Allison talk with Dr. Mary Conway, a contributor to the upcoming and highly anticipated third edition of Discovering Biblical Equality (DBE3). Dr. Conway is Assistant Professor of Old Testament at McMaster Divinity College in Hamilton, Ontario, Canada. Specifically, Dr. Conway is writing on the following in DBE3:

•  “Gender in Creation: Genesis 1–3.” In Discovering Biblical Equality, edited by Cynthia Long Westfall and Ronald W. Pierce. 3rd edition. Grand Rapids, MI: InterVarsity, forthcoming.

•  “The Treatment of Women under the Mosaic Law.” In Discovering Biblical Equality, edited by Cynthia Long Westfall and Ronald W. Pierce. 3rd edition. Grand Rapids, MI: InterVarsity, forthcoming.

Dr. Conway has also done extensive linguistic and theological work in Judges, as you can see on her personal page at McMaster.

If you like what we are doing, consider participating with us on creating the greatest egalitarian podcast on earth by becoming a monthly supporter on Patreon! Please share, rate (5 stars, please), and tell your friends about this podcast. Thank you for listening and supporting us!

30: Kate Wallace Nunneley of The Junia Project

Kate is the Lead Pastor at Wellspring Free Methodist Church in Bakersfield, California & Co-Founder of The Junia Project. As a Christian & feminist, Kate enjoys writing & speaking at the intersection of theology & gender. She loves living in Bakersfield with her husband Leif & their 2 dogs. Kate is currently pursuing her Masters of Divinity at Azusa Pacific Seminary & holds a Master of Science from the London School of Economics & a Bachelor of Arts from Azusa Pacific University. She joins us to talk about the genesis of The Junia Project, pastoral ministry, motherhood, and the power of theology and ministry as a life lived in holy love for God and others. We're so happy she joined us!

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29: N.T. Wright on The New Testament in its World and Women in Leadership

Yes. You read that correctly. N.T. Wright stopped by for a few minutes to talk about his new mammoth masterpiece (co-written with Mike Bird) The New Testament in its World: An Introduction to the History, Literature, and Theology of the First Christians. It is a wonderful work that both Allison and I will be using in our future (hopeful) teaching careers. We talked with Tom for a while about the project (warning: sporadic usage of the phrase ‘Bird Magic’ does appear) and then we asked him a few questions about women in ministry, and about how the New Testament encourages women in leadership.

Much thanks to Jana and others for their work in making this possible, and a hearty thank to Tom for kindly stopping by! Tom of course has written numerous works mentioned in the podcast, but here is a video on his thoughts on women in ministry as well as an article that spells out his thoughts.

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25: Huldah and Hermeneutics

Howdy! In this episode Nick and Allison have a long-overdue treat for you! If you are in Texas or want to be in Texas during the beginning of August, we have a discount code for the Christians for Biblical Equality Conference that can be found ONLY at the end of this episode.

Nick and Allison talk about the Prophet Huldah and about basic hermeneutics as they relate to the evangelical gender debate. Much could be said but we limited ourselves to the discussion simply to make things a bit breezy.

Excellent resources on Huldah include the articles by Christine Marchetti, Ron Pierce from Biola University, and Brenda Griffin Warren. These works demonstrate beyond a shadow of a doubt that God’s empowering placement of Huldah is a shattering blow to the paradigm of complementarianism.

We hope you enjoy, and we hope to see you in Houston, Texas (Aug 2-4)!

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23: Genesis 3 and the Fall

We’re back at it again! Nick is in the midst of pastoral ministry AND Advent, so that has taken up a lot of his already limited free time. Allison is in the midst of taking over the world, one theological argument at a time. This episode, we tackle Genesis 3 and the notion of the Fall, especially as it relates to male and female relationships. No easy task!

Allison argues (rightly, duh) that

God, the source of life, desires for humankind to live interdependently with each other in worshipful connection to him. This is the picture painted by Genesis 3:16. Gender hierarchy is a result of the fall, when a man and woman who once faced one another as equals become separated from God. Without a savior, their relationship with God and one another will continue to be one of separation.

Thank you for listening, and to our two new patrons!

Nick and Allison

21: In the Image of God: Gender, Genesis and Creation

Welp, we’re back! In this episode we tackle complementarian readings of Genesis 1-3, focusing specifically on Gen 1:25-28, 2:15-25 and 3:1-7. We interact with Ray Ortlund’s article in RBMW (Nick gets mildly sassy a few times) as well as Denny Burk’s article in The Gospel Coalition. Needless to say, we found their arguments/ assertions lackluster and unbiblical.

For those who are interested in further resources on this topic, see Marg Mowczko’s excellent and accessible scholarship and Richard Hess’ article on Genesis 1-3 in Discovering Biblical Equality. For those interested in more hermeneutical work, see the articles by Kevin Giles, Jasmine Obeyesekere Fernando, and John Jefferson Davis in Priscilla Papers. As it is clear, we do not believe Genesis provides complementarianism any ground to stand upon, and instead points toward an egalitarian reading that is consistent with all Scripture.

Tune in next time as Nick and Allison discuss the Fall and the impact this event has for our understanding of gender and mutuality!

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20: Jesus, Coffee & Gender with Michael Bird

Well we are back! Sort of!

It has been a busy few months with the new job transition for Nick, but thank God we are finally on some sort of schedule. This week we talk with Dr. Michael F. Bird, who is Academic Dean and Lecturer in Theology at Ridley College in Australia about Jesus and his view of gender. Mike is a former complementarian who has recently changed his mind on the bible's view of women and we talk about many things in this episode.

Among these things discussed are Jesus and divorce, coffee, Mike's poor taste in drinks, the genderedness of Jesus and soteriology, the issue of sexism and gender dynamics in the classroom, and so on and so forth. It was lively!

We apologize for the audio quality, as we are still working on figuring out how to properly record people who are technically in the future.

For Mike's books, we recommend his The Gospel of the Lord, Evangelical Theology, and his new commentary on Romans.

We hope you enjoy!

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17: Women in and beyond Romans 16

Well it is a new year!

We both hope you all had a happy holiday (or Xmas for those who get mad at the word 'holiday'). Now that Nick has graduated, some interesting life changes have happened and we talk a bit about those events and potential events in this episode. We apologize for the delay, but we think you will understand more once you hear what we have to say.

For an excellent work on women in Romans 16, see the academic work of Mark Reasoner on Romans 16 in general, J. David Miller on the various interpretive options surrounding Phoebe in Romans 16:1-2, Clayton Croy on translational bias in Romans 16, Philip Payne on the equal standing of women in Scripture and on the "titles" of women in Scripture and Robert Hull on the women mentioned in Philippians 4:2-3. For excellent and practical scholarship and wisdom, we commend The Junia Project, Christians for Biblical Equality and Marg Mowczko to you.

If you are interested in learning more about Apphia in Philemon 1:2, see Nick's peer-reviewed article published with Priscilla Papers.

If you like what you hear, please give us an honest five star review on iTunes and follow and connect with both of us on twitter (Nick and Allison)!

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14: Eve Christology: Embodiment, Gender & Salvation

This is a recording of Allison's presentation she gave at Duke Divinity School in mid-August and at the Interdisciplinary Theology Conference in October. Since many of you have inquired about it, we decided to make it a podcast episode for all to enjoy.

Most importantly: will Nick get a good jelly bean or a bad one? You'll have to listen and find out.

Much thanks to those who have taken the time to rate us on iTunes!

So....enjoy!

Also, for those who are interested in a more broadly evangelical conference and theological association, see the Canadian-American Theological Association, where Allison and I are both members, and we both presented papers in October!

To follow us on twitter, see @NickQuient and @AllisonQuient.

Our next episode will center on Romans 1:18-32 and Gender. Should be fun!

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12: CBE Conferences & Reflections on the Future of Egalitarianism

Welp. We were exhausted in this episode. No excuses.

Come to think of it, we're still exhausted.

Check out the #CBE17 hashtag for all of the updates during the conference: mostly tweeted by us!

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10: Galatians 3:28 and 'Should I leave my Complementarian Church?'

Since this episode won't air on Sunday, Happy Mother's Day! In this episode, we had some fun! We went through a lot of Galatians 1-3 for context, and then worked through the parallel passages of Galatians 3:28, as well as the theology within this verse. We also spent a great deal of time answering some listener questions.

If you ever have any questions or comments, feel free to email us.

Allison wrote a killer article entitled "A Woman's 'Role' as a First-Born Son: Full Justification in Christ Leads to Full Participation." Other helpful works include Philip Payne's entire article on Galatians 3:28 (starting at p.11 in the pdf), a post by Margaret Mowczko, and a Priscilla Paper's article by Faith Martin.

Allison writes:

Besides, the earthly implications of being a son or heir and the use of common social divisions, what other reason is there to think Gal 3:28 is practically minded and not limited to a justification that is mainly in spirit? It is also evident in parallel passages. The other similar passages are Colossians 3:11 and the baptismal statement 1 Cor 12:13. Both are applied to practical issues within the church and take on some familiar themes.

“Do not lie to each other, since you have taken off your old self with its practices and have put on the new self, which is being renewed in knowledge in the image of its Creator. Here there is no Gentile or Jew, circumcised or uncircumcised, barbarian, Scythian, slave or free, but Christ is all, and is in all” (Col 3:9-11).

 “Just as a body, though one, has many parts, but all its many parts form one body, so it is with Christ. For we were all baptized by one Spirit so as to form one body—whether Jews or Gentiles, slave or free—and we were all given the one Spirit to drink. Even so the body is not made up of one part but of many” (1 Cor 12:12-14).  Clearly, unity in Christ is tied to practice.

Allison's blog post will help answer any additional questions you may have about this passage, as we could not cover every single detail. Thanks for listening! If you would like to help promote the podcast, please retweet this or share us on your social media page, and leave us a (5 star?!) review on iTunes. Thanks and God Bless!

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